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Ep 546: Creating Affordable Housing
July 24, 2024

Ep 546: Creating Affordable Housing

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In this episode of the Hive With Us Podcast, hosts Daniel Martinez and Anthony Gaona discuss their mission of creating affordable housing through land investments. They delve into the significant impact that land investors can have on the housing market, the strategies they use to create affordable housing, and the broader economic benefits of their work.

 

Chapters

Chapter 1: Introduction and the Need for Affordable Housing (0:00 - 1:58)

Daniel Martinez introduces the topic of creating affordable housing and emphasizes the critical role that land investors play in addressing the housing shortage. He highlights the issue of rising rent rates due to insufficient housing supply and the importance of land investors in creating more housing opportunities.

 

Chapter 2: The Role of Land Investors and Community Impact (1:59 - 3:50)

Anthony Gaona discusses the process of transforming raw land into valuable properties. He explains how they create multiple lots from larger parcels of land to provide affordable housing options. Daniel and Anthony talk about the benefits their projects bring to the community, including job creation for local businesses and supporting the local economy. They also highlight their focus on seller financing, which allows more people to own land who might not have had the opportunity otherwise.

 

Chapter 3: Examples of Successful Projects (3:51 - 6:00)

Anthony shares a specific example of how they managed to get free electrical upgrades for one of their subdivisions, highlighting the advantages of working with utility companies that see the long-term benefits of their projects. This example showcases the scale and impact of their developments and how these partnerships can result in significant cost savings and infrastructure improvements.

 

Chapter 4: Challenges and Rewards of Land Development (6:01 - 10:00)

The hosts talk about the challenges they face in the land development business, such as the need for capital and the complexities of project management. They discuss the rewarding aspects of their work, including significant financial returns and the satisfaction of contributing to the community. They emphasize the importance of scalability in their operations to maximize their impact and financial returns.

 

Chapter 5: Vision for the Future (10:01 - End)

Daniel and Anthony share their vision for the future, aiming to scale their operations and create even more affordable housing projects. They discuss their goal of generating larger financial returns and increasing their impact on the housing market. They also talk about the potential for creating thousands of jobs and supporting a wide range of professionals, from surveyors and engineers to sales teams and city officials.

 

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creating affordable housing is to's
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episode I think this this one's uh
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really close to our heart and as us land
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investors I think we're the the starting
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seed of affordable housing when it comes
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down to it it really is there's there's
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a big need for affordable housing and if
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you listen online and people crying
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about raise rents and all that stuff is
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because there's there's too there's not
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enough and it raises when when the supp
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too much demand it raises the price so
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um housing getting out of control rent
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rates getting out of control and I think
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it's all because housing there's not
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enough housing so us as land investors
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we take it very personable to personal
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to uh create affordable housing and lots
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of it if we can and we're heading to it
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in larger scale I think that's what
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makes our business so fluid uh and so
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rewarding is that you can start with a
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raw piece of land say an Old Farm or
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something that's not of commission yep
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and uh you know hey there's a lot of
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people moving to Texas there's a lot of
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people moving to the United States yep
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uh all those people need somewhere to go
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like we already have a massive housing
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shortage right and some people either
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they can't afford a house with today's
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wages interest rates but we're coming in
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right and creating 10 Lots 20 Lots 180
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Lots inventory subdividing starting to
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create inventory for people that
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otherwise couldn't afford a nice house
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in a crazy area of town but if you can
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get yourself a nice 3/4 acre lot a one
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acre lot with a brand new double wide or
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a brand new home on it I mean goly
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that's the American dream you know so if
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you're in a regular little neighborhood
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right where the medium house price is as
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is what what the neighbors have and they
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have no land at all y we're giving we're
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creating something where you have a nice
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big piece of land so you can run your
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business out of maybe um at a very very
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affordable price we have a Target exit
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of somewhere between like two 199 and
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249 is our Target exit for the most part
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yeah so so we get we get to make money
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on our mission and it's a it's a double
Chapter 2: The Role of Land Investors and Community Impact.)
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has it does a lot of good things for you
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you know I think um like when I think
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about like Tyler cut that in 11 Lots
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floors 11 Lots again it does feel good
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then to be able to like I said to to be
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able to do the work and somebody that
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would have never had the chance to get
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land and do a lot of seller finance so
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we're giving a lot of people opportunity
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to get land when they would have never
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had it you know and I wish somebody had
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gave that opportunity to my mom and dad
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you know to say hey look you guys can
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buy five or 10 acres I just need five
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grand down or 10 grand down like man I'm
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sure they would have found the money and
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they would have did it and our life
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would have went a lot different you know
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we had the land it's a cash Reserve it's
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a place to relax you know it would have
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just been a different my whole life
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would have been different if somebody
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had introduced this to my parents so I
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love doing it I think it's cool
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especially when they have young kids
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it's like man the kids don't know how
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lucky they are you to be able to have
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land now the way that we do it yeah and
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then like we're putting more mobile
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homes on people that buy from us put
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mobile homes on the land so like even
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then like inventory like we're the the
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first seed of the of of the of the
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subdivision and and creating inventory
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like we've had multiple buyers come back
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and they're they're mobile home dealers
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and like that where they'll buy
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Lots from us so there's a lot of uh
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benefits to the community um that it
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feeds itself in different ways and I
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always think about like um as us as
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doing a lot of business in Texas we
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create a lot of job opportunities I mean
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work on deal with in Tyler right now
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where we brought in Corey and
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Witherspoon and their team on a
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transaction so you you get to feed and
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you get to do business with people you
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want to do business with those are boys
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we would love to keep them fed and and
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you know help them make money put food
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on their family table keep their M their
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machines operating keep them operational
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machines uh y this you know we got uh
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guy Jason that clears our skid steer
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properties around San Antonio then now
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we got the dirt trucks running lots of
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dirt trucks running probably spent 30 or
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40,000 on just dirt drops in the last 90
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days 120 days so it's cool to see that
Chapter 3: Examples of Successful Projects.)
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we are giving our friends and family
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jobs people are making money around us
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yep you know that's it's yeah we are
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creating a lot of opportunity just in
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our own little small circle y so imagine
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when the circle gets wider the projects
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get bigger we have 20 neighborhoods
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running like man all the Personnel
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involved top to bottom we're going to be
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employing thousands and thousands of
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people yep inadvertently like even now
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surveyors Engineers oh damn I forgot
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about I didn't think about that yeah
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surveys Engineers agents sales team our
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internal team people at the city damn
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this is getting exponential now yeah
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yeah the people at the city the counties
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those guys providing more taxes oh yeah
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so we got free electrical in one of our
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subdivisions I thought it was going to
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be maybe a couple hundred grand let's
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talk about that that's Co they said if
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we had to like put upgrade the
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transmission line coming down the road
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it could be you know somewhere between 5
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and 700,000 so in my mind I kind of
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earmarked a million for electrical yep
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for this neighborhood we're building and
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uh the city actually calls me back or
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the Electrical Company calls me back and
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he says Hey we've approved the uh the
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upgrade of the line coming down the
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street of the neighborhood and um we're
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paying for it out of our own pocket he
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said and uh whatever we charge you to
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run the polls and inside the
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neighborhood he said every time you sell
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the property we're going to give you
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back that much credit for that one unit
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so if let's say we have a $300,000
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electrical bill for running all the
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polls yeah we're going to divide that by
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180 and then every time we sell a lot
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they're going to give us back that money
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and they said because we really want
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your business so we're providing the
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electrical provider more opportunity to
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Arbitrage capital from customers yep so
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they they're throwing in a million
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dollars worth of electrical for free
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because they want to our project happen
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affable housing imagine that you're
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doing a house and you need a freaking
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$100,000 remodel that ain't never coming
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for free never we're getting a million
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dollar remodel for
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free land game that's upgrading the
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electrical lines coming down the street
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that's how bad they want the
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power it's an interesting game it's
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interesting game I think um I invite
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more people to participate because it's
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only going to make things better for a
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lot of people that's what that's
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probably the most mind-blowing thing out
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of all this to me is that people that
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have this type of information they're
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not sharing it yeah and me and you here
Chapter 4: Challenges and Rewards of Land Development.10:00)
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we are we're like on open Forum telling
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everybody and then like yeah a lot of
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people are here but like wow you just
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think like they should be coming by the
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thousands by now right but like I think
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people want an easy quick little hit
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like I want to flip a house I want to
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get paid by Tuesday everybody wants to
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get rich quick scheme that's what
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everybody wants everything else sounds
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glamorous in our game like oh it takes
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six months or a year I can't do that but
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the people that are sticking around are
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starting to do very well they starting
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to learn a lot of game the faster we
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learn it the faster they learn it yeah
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it's getting tremendous man like I said
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I think you know we we're always looking
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for any wholesale fee 10 grand 20 grand
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was great we bumped it to 100 now we're
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it seems like these bumps these days are
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getting closer to 500 to A Millie hey I
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could see d one a Millie's probably a
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low deal for us hey they're coming in
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good and then you get it in tranches too
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um frier has like 400 Grand on it that's
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that's what I'm saying I think we're
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hovering between like one and five but
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Tyler has seven figures there's a seven
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figure that's we got this seven figure
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and then um um florville yeah florville
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could easily go uh the one in Orville
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Kyle's deal the entitlement deal that
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one's going to seven figures way way
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over seven figures Converse um Converse
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should be multiple hopefully um what
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else do we got I yeah we're starting to
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pop up like we're starting just planting
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big seeds you get big returns and that's
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what's cool that's what I'm talking
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about it's like a piano kind of like
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you're hitting the right notes hitting
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the right notes and it was like 10 grand
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five grand 20 grand five grand now it's
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like 100 200 500 but sooner or later
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every Keys is going to be a million
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dollars like every play every every
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every deal will be a million up yeah and
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learning how to play at that scale what
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is it taking just Blood Sweat tears
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figuring it out team and system Making
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Connections team systems putting things
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into place raising Capital like always I
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mean I think that's the ultimate thing
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that a real estate investor should be
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focused on yep but yeah lots of moving
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pieces man there you go hope you found
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Daniel Esteban Martinez

Host/ Ceo/ Speaker

I have been an entrepreneur since 2018. I come from a regular home just like most people. My dad worked on the roads in the Chicago area for over 30 years. He always taught me to work with my brain, instead of my body. Your body can only take so much abuse. I learned so much from my father. He always pushed me to work smarter and not harder.

I have owned and operated a trucking business for 2 years. I started learning real estate in 2019. Fell into the Data & Skiptracing business in 2020. My partner Anthony & I started Hivemind in 2021.

I have done a ton of different jobs coming up from painting, to door-to-door sales, telemarketing, truck driving, and loading trailers. What I learned most is that I want to stay in the digital business space. The leverage you can have delivering digital products to the marketplace can yield limitless possibilites.

I started The List Guys in 2020. It is a data and skiptracing service. We provide seller and buyers list nationwide. My clients have been getting great results and I am proud to help people killing it.

I started the Hive in 2021 with my partner Anthony Gaona. It is a real estate and business mastermind. It also comes with a all in one CRM, that can host unlimited websites and users.

Starting the Hivemind has been an amazing journey so far. Seeing one of our users make his 6 figure month in June 2021 leveraging our software, I know there will be plenty more to come!

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Anthony Gaona

Host/ Ceo/ Speaker

Hi! I am Anthony Gaona.
I’ve been in digital marketing for almost 15 years.I grew up in construction working for my dad when I was only 12 years old. Normally we had a ton of work or no work at all so a lot of my free time was spent learning how to generate leads.

It didn’t take very long for me to master online marketing because I became absolutely obsessed with it. For the last 15 years I’ve been generating construction based leads. At first I was running the projects myself. This led to sub-contracting all of the excess projects and eventually wholesaling the leads off to other construction companies.

One day I was preparing to build a single family residence for myself. In mid December, 2018, a simple YouTube search led me to the term wholesaling and the rest is history. The plan was to use my construction background to start flipping houses. By January 1st of 2019 I launched several marketing campaigns both on and offline for real estate seller leads.

Within about 4-5 weeks I had my first real estate contract locked up. It didn’t take long for me get a land lead where I made almost a full year’s pay on a single transaction. This came from a land lead and that forever changed my life.

I ran low volume larger land deals for the first two years of my real estate career. Like anyone who has been in real estate investing for an extended period of time, I started thinking about scaling my business.

Instead of deciding to vertically integrated and start hiring I imagined a model where I would teach my real estate investing method… Read More